Gene Steinberg and guest co-host Curtis Collins chat with British ufologist and publisher Philip Mantle on the state of ufology in his country, the UK, versus the US. Mantle makes pithy comments about the “Secret Space Program,” the chances for success of Tom DeLonge’s To the Stars Academy of Arts and Science, and the Larry Warren/Rendlesham controversy. Mantle also describes his roles in the Roswell Slides affair and the 1995 “Alien Autopsy” film controversy. Gene brings up the current practice of reviewing classic UFO cases, and Bill Chalker has one for us in WESTALL ’66: a Possible ASIO Connection & a Suggested Answer? This refers to a dramatic April 6, 1966, sighting by over 200 people from two different schools in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. A member of the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation (ASIO), the Australian equivalent of the U.S. FBI, was the ultimate source for an explanatory tale that featured an American-run clandestine operation, (apparently) German scientists, and disc-shaped, remote-controlled aerial vehicles. The scenario has some disheartening aspects and seems almost as unlikely a cause of the observed facts as would an ET dalliance, but makes for interesting reading. (WM)

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